This article has been medically reviewed by Katrina Oliveros, MSN-ED, BSN.
Maria Katrina is a trauma-informed Wellness Educator and Psychedelic Harm Reduction Consultant. Beyond nursing, she supports health & wellness teams through medical aid, psychedelic harm reduction, and integration services.
Whether you’re looking for a way to use your magic mushrooms more efficiently or want to have a consistent method of measuring your mushroom dosages, making magic mushroom powder is a great solution. It’s also one of the best ways to prepare psilocybin mushrooms for microdosing.
Making your own magic mushroom powder is simple: all you need is your psychedelic mushrooms, a food processor or blender, and capsules for your powder. With this powder, you can easily create your own microdoses (or macrodoses) and enjoy all the benefits of psilocybin mushrooms.
What is Magic Mushroom Powder?
Magic mushroom powder is made by grinding dehydrated psilocybin mushrooms into fine particles. It’s considered to be the best way to yield the most consistent psilocybin microdose.
Creating magic mushroom powder allows you to homogenize the variance in psilocybin content between caps and stems, and from mushroom to mushroom.
The easiest way to powder dried psilocybin mushrooms is with a spice or coffee grinder. Unlike with a dehydrator, it is recommended to have a separate grinder for microdosing preparation, since nearly impossible to get all the fine mushroom particles out of the blades.
While it may be entertaining to imagine your roommate unwittingly enhancing herself while grinding up spices for chai, it is better advised not to run the risk of unwanted microdosing.
Why Use Magic Mushroom Powder for Microdosing?
- Using mushroom powder makes measuring accurate amounts for a dose easier and can help you consistently microdose with the same amount and have similar experiences.
- Magic mushroom powder is better digested than other methods and reduces the taste of the magic mushroom.
- It’s easier to travel with mushroom powder. You can store mushroom capsules in an airtight container, pill bottle, or film canister.
- You can cook meals and make sweets with mushroom powder, like truffles, chocolate, smoothies, and more.
- You can also store mushroom powder in the fridge for a year or up to ten years in the freezer. The colder, the better.
Why microdose at all? If you want to practice sustainability and don’t have easy access to an organic chemistry lab to synthesize LSD, microdosing with psilocybin mushrooms is a natural alternative. While snipping up or diluting blotter tabs is an easy way to microdose with LSD, it does mean dependence on an external source that might not be consistent or reliable. Purchasing legal psilocybin truffles, or even better, growing your own magic psilocybin mushrooms leaves you in charge of the process, and if you have a golden-brown thumb, you could find yourself providing for your mushroom microdose-enthusiast friends as well.
How to Prepare Psilocybin Mushrooms for Microdosing
Microdosing with psilocybin mushrooms is ideal for the hands-on psychonaut who loves the idea of being involved in every step of the process. Preparing psilocybin for microdosing involves a bit of investment in kitchen equipment, but you can easily acquire all you need for around $80.
For mushroom supplies and guidance, check out Third Wave’s Mushroom Grow Kit and Course.
1. Drying the Mushrooms
Drying mushrooms eliminates moisture, and with it, any chance of bacteria formation. You can dry mushrooms with a variety of methods, from leaving them out on a towel, to putting them in front of a fan, to baking them on low heat in the oven for several hours (this is a classic mistake, since any heat can decrease their potency), to placing them in a box with Epsom salts.
The full, proper drying process always involves an initial phase of pre-drying, where the mushrooms are placed out in the sun under a dark cloth, or in front of a fan, for a few hours until their texture becomes gummy, and their appearance wrinkly. After that, a desiccant must be applied. This can either be a custom Epsom salt-based concoction, or simple silica gel packets. Drying mushrooms this way is gradual; it takes a few weeks for them to reach the crackly state characteristic of full dryness.
For economy of space, energy, and time, a food dehydrator with a low heat setting is one of the most effective ways of preserving psilocybin mushrooms while keeping their potency level intact. A dehydrator will set you back just about $40, and when you’re not using it to render cracker-dry portals to another dimension, it can double as a decoy that makes banana chips. Plus, several harvests of mushrooms can be dried overnight in a dehydrator instead of leaving them over all the surfaces of your house for weeks. Dehydrators are also especially recommended for humid climates.
Once fully dried, both mushrooms and mushroom truffles can be safely stored in a cool, dark, dry place and last a few years, or even longer (if one manages not to lose or eat them in this time frame). The potency loss should be minimal to non-existent if there is no light, low moisture, or heat to mess with the psilocybin inside.
Third Wave’s Mushroom Grow Kit and Course covers the dehydration stage in detail.
2. Making the Magic Mushroom Powder
Once you have dried mushrooms, it’s ready to turn them into powder. Just make sure that they’re completely dry before starting this process. Then, grind your mushrooms in a spice or coffee grinder to create the powder.
It will take less than a minute of pulsing to mill your psilocybin mushrooms into a fine powder. Then, don’t open the grinder for at least half an hour to allow the fine dust in the chamber to settle. Opening it right away will cause the agitated particles to be sucked up into the air in a whoosh of psychedelic fairy dust and anoint your kitchen with the lingering smell of magic fungus for hours.
Remember that cannabis is not the only thing that will give you a buzz from inhaling ambient vapors!
3. Measure the Powder
Once you’re finished grinding your mushrooms into a powder, it’s time to measure out your doses for consumption. While you can pour all of your mushroom powder into a sealable jar and store it that way, measuring out specific dosages makes it so your microdoses are safe, consistent, and ready to go whenever you want to take them.
Having an electronic scale for the kitchen is a good place to start. Scales accurate to 0.1 – 1.0 grams go for about $20. Weigh the dry mushrooms out before pulverizing to know how much total mushroom mass there will be once they are powdered. Knowing how much you have to start with will help you divide up the amounts for each microdose.
For example: 2 grams of dried whole mushrooms will yield 10 microdoses of 0.2 grams after powdering.
You’ll need capsules and capsule filler for this step. Capsule fillers are machines that can feel empty capsules with precise quantities of powders, granules, or pellets. They consist of a hopper that holds the filling material, a dosing system that controls the amount of material dispensed, and a mechanism that seals the filled capsules. Voila!
4. Determine Your Psilocybin Microdose
To microdose mushrooms, you need approximately one tenth of a standard dose. This means you will use somewhere between 0.1 – 0.3 grams of dried powdered psilocybin mushrooms per dose. (If you are using psilocybin truffles, use between 0.5 – 1 grams of dried powdered truffles per dose – they will contain less psilocybin than mushrooms.)
Generally speaking, if a normal microdose is 0.1 – 0.3 grams of mushrooms, you’ll want to start with 0.1 grams if your body weight is below 100 lbs. However, if you weigh about 200 lbs, you may be comfortable starting with 0.3 grams. Double these starting doses for truffles. Here is a useful dosage calculator.
Kitchen scales are often not precise to 0.1 grams. They may not register any weight until there are at least 0.5 grams, which may be too much for one microdose. What you can do instead is simply heap all your powder onto a piece of paper and parse it out evenly into micro-piles. Or, purchase a scale that can measure down to the .01 gram (or less)!
As you will notice, the issue with powdered mushrooms is that their low density can causethe powder tot float around during handling. So try not to breathe in too much of the vapor, or you will be delivering yourself aerial microdoses.
Remember that this amount can be higher or lower depending on each individual’s neurophysiology, weight, and the potency of the mushrooms or truffles you’re microdosing. An important part of the microdosing process is calibrating the dosage to be a perfect fit just for you. This process can take up to several microdoses to figure out, so it is better to start low and then (patiently) work upward until you find your psilocybin sweet spot.
You can also use Halugen’s pre-screening platform and Psychedelics Genetic Test Kit to understand your individual sensitivities when it comes to using psychedelics such as psilocybin mushrooms. Understanding your genetic profile can better inform your psychedelic experience by reducing the risk of side-effects and risk.
5. Taking Your Magic Mushroom Microdose
Once you’ve measured out your microdose amount, there are many ways to ingest it. Many people just take the powder as it is. We’ve already gone over the mushroom pill option; the most popular alternative is making a mushroom tea, or you can get creative and mix your mushroom or truffle powder with basically anything you consume in your day-to-day life.
A mushroom tea is easy to make, and mitigates the flavor, especially if you add honey. It’s made like any other tea. Just pour hot water over the mushroom powder and stir the concoction until it’s homogenous.
You can also add your microdose to your health shake in the morning, or mix it with the maple syrup you put on your pancake breakfast, or infuse it in the chocolate icing that goes on top of your brownies. Sprinkling over cereal is one way of masking the earthy flavor, as is mixing it into orange juice or having it with a spoonful of honey. The possibilities are endless.
You could also mix your magic mushroom powder with other functional mushroom powders to stack the biological, creative, and neurological benefits all in one.
6. Setting Your Microdose Intention
Whichever method you choose, don’t just toss it down the hatch! Be mindful of your motives for microdosing before you consume your dose. Microdosing produces the best results when you are clear within yourself about why you are doing it.
Setting an intention before microdosing mushrooms is important because it helps provide focus and purpose to the experience. It allows you to clarify your desired outcomes and direct your attention towards specific goals such as personal growth, creativity, or emotional well-being.
7. Storing Extra Mushrooms for Future Use
Fresh mushrooms and truffles can be safely stored in the fridge at 2-4 degrees Celsius for up to a month. They should be packed in a paper bag or wrapped up in an unbleached kitchen towel. The cool and dark environment of the fridge is good for preserving them, but the moisture in the fridge will eventually influence them to grow bacteria and decompose.
This especially goes for mushrooms. Truffles, thanks to their lower moisture content, can easily last three months if vacuum packed in a ziplock bag. In order to preserve psilocybin mushrooms for longer, however, they first need to be properly dried.
What to Know to Have a Consistent Mushroom Microdosing Experience
If fresh psilocybin mushrooms are what you’ve got on hand, especially if they’re cute miniature pinheads that never made it to maturity (see image), it can be tempting to think along the lines of “Microshrooms for Microdosing.” There is something inherently organically enticing about the idea of just taking a little mushroom cap in the morning along with your coffee and cereal.
This, however, will most likely produce an inconsistent psilocybin microdosing experience. Considering the following:
Fresh vs Dry Mushrooms
Fresh and dry psilocybin mushrooms are generally considered equivalent using the 10% dry to wet ratio. However, rRemember this is only an approximation, and dry mushrooms can be more or less than 10% of their fresh weight. This means that if you take 3 grams of fresh mushrooms, you could be getting more or less than 0.3 dry grams from it, depending on the mushroom itself and environmental factors, like humidity levels.
Psilocybin Content in Mushroom Caps and Stems
Caps and stems contain different levels of psilocybin.The psilocybin contents in Psilocybe cubensis, one of the most commonly enjoyed strains, are in the range of 0.37–1.30% in the whole mushroom, with 0.44–1.35% in the cap and 0.05–1.27% in the stem.
This means that the caps are, on average, slightly more potent than the stems, and that there are tiny bits of stems that contain almost no psilocybin. In order to equalize, it’s always recommended to grind your mushrooms to a fine powder.
Varying Psilocybin Content
Psilocybin content varies from mushroom to mushroom, from flush to flush, and between strains. Changing varieties during your microdosing protocol will make calibration difficult as you’ll be ingesting varying amounts of psychoactive substance with each different type of psilocybin mushroom.
Psilocybin content changes in the different stages of development of a mushroom. Miniature pinheads that just didn’t grow bigger can be more potent than larger mushrooms per gram of weight.
Method of Consumption
There are multiple ways to microdose psilocybin mushrooms in powder form, and some can impact the strength of the mushrooms.
Here are some different ways to eat shrooms:
- Mushroom Chocolates: Using mushrooms and chocolate together is an ancient practice originally used in Mesoamerican rituals and ceremonies. The mushrooms are typically cooked with chocolate or consumed before drinking a chocolate beverage. Combining the two helps enhance the mushrooms’ effects and mask their earthy taste. Additionally, one can make mushroom hot chocolate, magic mushroom chocolate bars, and even mushroom brownies.
- Mushroom Tea: Drinking mushroom tea provides a faster psychedelic experience while avoiding unpleasant stomach issues. Your digestive system absorbs the substance more quickly, eliminating any psilocybin that would be lost if you were to eat the mushrooms directly. Because the effects occur more quickly, the experience is usually shorter.
- Psilocybin-infused Meals: Cooking with magic mushrooms can mute the flavor and help prevent nausea. To avoid overcooking the mushrooms, cooking them at a lower temperature than usual is important—magic mushrooms start to break down at temperatures of 160 degrees Fahrenheit and higher.
- Lemon Tekking: Lemon tekking is a method of soaking dried, ground psilocybin mushrooms in lemon or lime juice before eating them. It can reduce the onset of the mushroom trip from one to two hours to just minutes and the effects of the mushrooms are usually much more potent than if taken without the tekking process.
- Juice and Smoothies: Smoothies and juices are an enjoyable and straightforward way to enjoy the benefits of magic mushrooms. You can combine them with other ingredients like fruits and vegetables to disguise the taste of the mushrooms. This method also makes it simpler for your body to absorb the mushrooms since they are partially broken down before you consume them.
More about Microdosing Mushrooms
Common Effects of Microdosing
Multiple factors play a role in the effects of magic mushrooms, including the dose, your mental state, environment, type of mushroom, preparation technique, and your unique body chemistry.
Some common effects you may experience during your microdosing trip include:
- Increased awareness, creativity, and focus
- Intense emotions
- Feelings of joy and euphoria
- Visual and auditory hallucinations
- Vibrant colors
- Peacefulness
- Spiritual awakening
- Drowsiness
There may also be some negative effects, such as:
- Confusion
- Nausea or vomiting
- Dizziness
Microdosing vs Macrodosing
Macrodosing is when you take a much larger dose of psilocybin mushrooms, which can lead to potent emotional, perceptual, and spiritual effects–as opposed to microdosing on psychedelics in small amounts for its subperceptual effects.
Both options have their perks and purposes. However, if you’re a beginner, it can be best to hold off on macrodosing until you have more experience with psilocybin mushrooms.
Is Microdosing Legal?
It can be tricky to understand the legality of mushrooms because of the various regional regulations in place. Mushrooms are only legal in a select few countries and states, and it depends on how you intend to use them:
- Selling: Selling mushrooms is illegal, for the most part. You can sell spores that don’t contain any psilocybin. Georgia, California, and Idaho have banned selling any kind of spores.
- Buying: Purchasing any psilocybin mushrooms or spores is illegal in most countries and states.
- Growing: Growing magic mushrooms can be seen as drug manufacturing in the U.S., and you can be penalized for doing so.
- Consuming: Some countries have made it legal to consume magic mushrooms; however, they cannot be sold.
- Possessing: Carrying or having magic mushrooms in your possession is illegal in most states. There are a handful of counties and states that have decriminalized owning magic mushrooms.
If you want to learn more about the legality of psilocybin and which counties, states, and countries have decriminalized it. Check out our complete guide to the legality of psilocybin mushrooms.
FAQ
What Kind Of Magic Mushroom And Truffles Can Be Used For Microdosing?
You can use any kind; people most often opt for the classic strains Golden teacher (Psilocybe cubensis) or Liberty caps (Psilocybe semilanceata). Since the small dose yields a sub-perceptual effect, there should be no explicit difference in which strain is used. If you do notice some effects, you took too much; try dialing back the dosage until you find your sweet spot.
What Is The Best For Microdosing- Magic Mushrooms or Truffles?
Both are about the same, except for the dosage. Truffles have a lower psilocybin content, so you will need a larger dose.
What’s The Best Way To Ingest A Magic Mushroom?
Mushroom pills, or capsules filled with an exact dose of mushroom powder, are the best option due to their preciseness. Otherwise, you are free to infuse the powder into tea, coffee, hot chocolate, smoothies, or other preferred drinks, or eat it with honey, yogurt, cereals, or any other way you like.
How Can I Grind Magic Mushrooms Without A Grinder?
Although no other way can be as precise (and preciseness is key to microdosing), you can go the old-fashioned way and use scissors to pulverize them as finely as possible. In this case, a highly accurate digital scale would be vital, as eyeballing the dosage split would add a second degree of impreciseness.
What If I Take Too Little Or Too Much?
If you take too little, you won’t notice a thing. If you take too much, depending on the strain, you may notice either drowsiness or some mental hyperactivity. The key is to find the dosage just below the point where you notice an effect.
Is Microdosing Mushrooms Safe?
Taking reasonable (meaning, not extremely high) doses of psilocybin has been proven to be completely safe. Naturally, taking a microdose is safe as well. However, there hasn’t been any longitudinal research done on frequent microdosing over an extended period of time, so we advise everyone to microdose for no longer than a few months at a time.
Can A Psilocybin Microdose Be Detected In A Drug Test?
Psilocybin and its metabolites are not included in most standard drug screens. However, they are sometimes included in extended drug screens.
Interested in learning more about safe, structured microdosing? Check out our course.
Considering a psilocybin macrodose experience? Check out Third Wave’s vetted guide of psilocybin retreat centers around the world.
Where Can You Buy Magic Mushroom Powder?
Federal and state regulations can make buying and sourcing magic mushroom powder difficult. A few states and countries have legalized psychedelic mushrooms, so it is important to do research before purchasing any form of magic mushroom powder or mushroom to avoid any legal issues.
While Third Wave can’t help you source mushroom powder (besides providing a guide on how to buy them), we do have a Mushroom Grow Kit equipped with everything you need to start cultivating at home.
Third Wave’s Mushroom Grow Kit has everything you need to cultivate your renewable source of high-quality mushrooms. The process is straightforward, and the kit includes an in-depth mushroom-growing course to guide you through each step. It comes with pre-packaged components, sterilized materials and tools, clear instructions, and video demonstrations.
Beginners and experts can produce an abundant harvest of mushrooms in just 4-6 weeks–and magic mushroom powder soon after!
Please let me know of other ways of microdosing with mushrooms that wouldn’t involve powdering. Can’t I just make some sort of liquid extract? Is there a way that wouldn’t involve drying?
What is micro doseing for I have heavy triped . What are the benefits.
Powdering is more consistent because there are different amounts of Psilocybin and Psilocin in the Stem and Caps. You’d just have to find how much that is and calculate the micro-dose based on the wet weight ratio of mg of mushroom to Psilocybin/Psilocin.
As for how to eat it I think the easiest way is probably to crush it in some parchment paper and mix it in with some milk chocolate or butterscotch chips. It will keep this way for ages and doesn’t taste gross. This also gives you an easy way to pre-measure doses without worrying about losing too much and storage etc.
Wicked article guys x
Can I smoke the powder on top of a cone with marijuana or by itself will the effects be the same for mi crodosing
i am a heavy tripper myself and i personally see the benefits of micro dosing to be that your more appreciative of your time spent and all your senses are sharpened while increasing metal productivity, downside: i get sided tracked easily….
I read on a mushroom forum (possibly the shroomery) about a way to extract the psilocybin out of a mushroom. I believe you needed a special type of high percentage alcohol but I will have to do a little digging to find that article if I do I will post here. I think a liquid would be much better as you could add it to juice and it would be easier to measure an exact amount.
We extract with organic vodka 100 proof (50% apv) I’m in the process of narrowing the dose level as I don’t want to have a “melt down” ? We pulled for three weeks, then strained. You can see the cloud of awesomeness!
I’d love to hear what you came up with as far as dosages. I am about to make a tinture to use for microdosing.
HI. I’m curious to know what ratios of mushroom to alcohol you used to create your tinctures and dosage. I take tinctures on a regular basis for overall health/wellness and would love to do the same with mushrooms. Thanks.
I wish there were more info on truffles as they are legal to purchase and will be my route for microdosing.
Mush Magic website has info on using truffels.
After grinding your dried mushrooms into a fine powder, make peanutbutter, honey chocolate balls with them:
Weigh out 28 grams of dried powdered shrooms.
With a fork, mix two tablespoons of unsweetened cacao powder with the shrooms. (I use Trader Joe’s organic raw cacao powder). Mix the two dried powders together thoroughly.
Next, mix together two tablespoons of raw honey with two tablespoons of peanut butter.
Now combine the dried shrooms and cacao powder with the honey &peanut butter. Mix thoroughly. Once I get it into a ball, I knead it with my hands until it is thoroughly mixed.
Next, weigh the entire ball. Divide the total weight by 28 and divide the whole thing into 28 little balls using your scale. Put them on a cookie sheet and freeze them. Once frozen, I put them in a glass jar or a glass bowl with a seal tight lid and keep them in the freezer for long term storage. Now you have tasty chocolate, peanut butter shroom balls in convenient 1 gram shroom doses.
For microdosing:
I take out three or four and put them in the fridge and I can easily weigh out a microdose from a thawed ball.
I have also wrapped each chocolate ball individually in plastic wrap for traveling. This is also a great way to pack your shrooms when flying with them.
Truffles are actually illegal to purchase or sell in many countries.
Can you speak towards how much potencty loss we can expect due to oxidation once it is ground. My research has indicated this may be a concern, but as usual, it’s all just secondhand from nonexperts to begin with.
Oxidation could potentially be avoided if crush it in some parchment paper (or however you like) and mix it in with some milk chocolate or butterscotch chips. It will keep this way for ages and doesn’t taste gross. This also gives you an easy way to pre-measure doses without worrying about losing too much and storage etc.
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Jack – Yours is a good question but not really applicable from a practical point of view. Dried mushrooms are not very dense. You will find that the next to largest capsule (00-capsule) (prob the biggest you might want to swallow) will only hold about 0.25 gm of very finely chopped but ‘loose’ dried mushroom. It will hold about 0.5 gm of powdered product.
Thus, 3 gm of mushroom plus a diluent would be the volume of 3 to 6 00-capsules.
Now where that might have an application would be measurement by some sort of small spoon, for example. You would have to insure uniform mixing in that case, however, since, as above the mushroom powder is light in density.
Just use powdered sugar. THat’s how pills are made.
Can you tell me if there is an inert powder like flour or arrowroot that I could mix the cubensis powder with to make it more easy to manage? Like if I powder an ounce of mushrooms, and mix it with 5 ounces of another inert powder, then I could fill my capsules with 3 grams of the mixture to get .5 grams of cubensis.
I am micro dosing with dried mushrooms in order to get rid of cluster headaches. My problem is when I receive them they are soft and most are black. They are vacuum packed. Is this ok ?
I intend to try the truffles soon at a stronger dose.
I have many health problems for the last 20 years due to the death of my Son. And I need a way to have some quality of life. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Blessings To All……….
You can use food grade diatomaceous earth to dilute your powder. It has it’s own health benefits that would work great alongside the powdered mushroom microdose, and can potentially alleviate the upset stomach that sometimes can happen from mushroosm that were harvested a tad too late.
I bought your microdosing kit and don’t have a clue how to use it.Help want to start micro dosing asap
Hi Margarete,
Please reach out to [email protected] for instructions and thanks for mentioning – we’ll look into including better instructions in the future.
https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing/mushrooms/
This will tell you everything you need to know along with a free online video. Read the whole thing very carefully!
Hi i love your web site, the information always its very accurate.
BUT please put more images in your tutorials… a lot a lot of images … in the other ways … its dificult to get the most of your articles.
Very thank you for all the work you have been doing, i love to work with us sometime
What Modesto Ordoñez says
What Modesto Ordoñez says
You say: ‘fresh mushrooms can be more or less than 10% of their dry weight.’ Surely, you mean: ‘fresh mushrooms can be more or less than 10 times their dry weight.’
Did you order yet, I am also thinking about following your lead?
Looking for advise on getting started (absolute newbie). I’ve read through all the info I could find here, and here’s what I’m ready to move on. B+ and Golden Teacher spores – Spore Store, Ultimate Mushroom Growing Kit – Midwest, and then a food dehydrator. Any input before I hit send would be appreciated!
Hi, my son has started microdosing 6 days ago, but he has also just started taking an SNR anti-depressant/anti-anxiety medication (Deloxitine). Looking for advice on whether he should continue the microdosing concurrently with meds or whether to discontinue whilst meds establish some stability for him?
@Susie –
I”ve been researching this lately because I take an SSRI. From what I have found, there are no negative interactions. However, the antidepressant may dull or nullify the effect of the mushrooms.
discontinue meds continue microdosing. please
Please, consult a medical professional before making any decisions. We cannot provide any medical advice as we are not qualified to provide professional recommendations.
dont ever abruptly end a cycle of meds
but break the dosages down lil by lil ….
otherwise if you do stop abrupt
you could hallucinate, delirium states, psychoses, and the list goes on ….
Both drugs act on the serotonin receptors in the brain, so (although there’s no research on this) they are likely to interfere with each other. He’s probably going to need to choose which one to continue with; both at the same time may have unpredictable effects. A doctor is likely to recommend continuing with the SNRI, because that’s the one with the modern research behind it, and the only legal option in most countries, but that’s up to your son to decide. If he can safely discontinue the SNRI (some tapering off may be necessary, depending how long he’s been taking it, and what dose he’s on), in discussion with his doctor, he may want to try the microdosing for a while to see how effective that is – he’ll know quite quickly – and if it isn’t to revert to the SNRI. Microdosing isn’t for everyone.
Please consider discontinuing the Duloxetine after a few months of microdosing. I was on it and the side effects were not good. Then you have to titrate down to get off it.
You are suppose to be out of meds for taking psychedelics since nobody knows their interactions. It is suppose that Psilocybin could treat depression, please read more scientific papers. Duloxetin has very bad withdraw effects.
Hello Susie and Moanstrength,
I thought I would reach out and share this resource that we link to from The Third Wave website. It is meant purely as an educational resource and we do not endorse any of these combinations, but perhaps you may find it useful for this topic. You can also take a look at our article on Psychedelics and Antidepressants (located here).
Wishing you best of luck on your journey,
– Britt at The Third Wave
How many grams in 1/16 and 1/8 of a teaspoon?? You leave out some important information. You also mention dividing the ground powder into heaps. But then what do you do with the heaps??
Where can i buy some psylosybin,just need a legit suplier for personal use in south afrika?can somebody assist,and prices please if possible?
Unfortunately, due to the legal nature of psilocybin in South Africa, we cannot provide this information on our website, nor can we allow information about sourcing illegal substances on our website.
However, there is a group of advocates who are trying to change the legal status of psilocybin in South Africa!
Here is a link for more information: https://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/health/mind/the-case-to-legalize-magic-mushrooms-10936671.
Did you know fresh mushrooms (cubensis)are legal in New Mexico. They are NOT if they are dry.
I was unaware of this information, thank you for the clarification and thank you for the supporting evidence you provided in your other posts!
Hello, Here in Guadalajara, Mexico, Many European tourists come to consume mushrooms. This is for the month of September. They harvest them and eat them at the same time.
Here’s a couple articles about legal mushrooms in the Land of Enchantment…
https://www.inverse.com/article/7772-magic-mushrooms-are-legal-in-new-mexico-how-bout-that
More about legal mushrooms in the Albuquerque Journal about legal enchanted Mushrooms…https://www.abqjournal.com/news/state/apmush06-15-05.htm
I mixed my 2gr of dried powdered mushroom with Coconut Oil.
Then I take +-0.2gr every 3rd day. I judge 0.2gr visually when I scoop a small amount out the jar with the tip of a knife.
It is easy to find inexpensive scales on line that are accurate to a hundredth of a gram. Your suggestion of using a scale that is only accurate to a tenth of a gram and then eyeballing divvying it up is silly when for $17-$30 CAD you have your choice of many scales that are intended for measuring exact amounts of medicines. Eyeballing not necessary. Get the right equipment and do it right! But thanks for an otherwise very informative and practical article!
Do you have a recommendation for such a scale? The descriptions for scales that I’ve seen aren’t specific about accuracy for these tiny amounts.
So I am clear. .2 gram or = 200mg for a microdose? or are we talking .020 or .002 …as a microdose?
I’d be interested in learning whether you can take the powdered mushroom and use it in a pill press to make hard pills instead of capsules.
Lovely read) much respekt guys)
Assuming 100% of the psilocybin was absorbed, take the total amount of alcohol used divided by the amount of mushroom used to figure out how much mushrooms / mL.
For example:
10 grams of mushroom
100mL of alcohol
10/100 = 0.1
So, there are 0.1 grams of mushroom/mL
So I have liquid psilocybin in an alcohol base but I have no idea how many drops equals 0.2g dried mushrooms. Can’t find the info anywhere. So I really have no idea how to microdose this.
I’ve dosed 3 drops. It was subtle, mild and short-lived.
Please help!
Just wondering if there would be a +/- affect for someone with progressive MS.
Thanks.
Are these daily micro doses? Thanks!
Please clarify 1/16th of a t-spoon and 1/8th of a t-spoon. How much is each in grams?
Finely powdered, 1/8th teaspoon weighs an average of .15 grams on my scale.
I just hope that the magical mushroom won’t end up like marijuana. With all the possibilities it can open all doors for treatment of illnesses.
Just break off stems and weigh each dose that way. When you get to caps adjust dosage. Too much trouble to powder and weigh.
Hello i would like to ask if there is any posibility microdising could help me with my hronic depersonalization
I would like to add a very important point, and hopefully you edit this port because it is important to understand. SUGAR KILLS PSILOCYBIN!!! If you are going to “sprinkle it on cereal”, it MUST be sugar free. And that goes the same with you coffee or tea.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be doing that anyway. Buy vege caps, super cheap on ebay, and take your dose before breakfast or bed (or both?), I’m still playing.
Another note, I’m not sure you have the information yet, but psilocybe subaeruginosa is much more accessible, and easily picked that cubensis in a lot of countries. Do you have any information about the dosage for subs? Subs require a lot less than cubes to reach the breakthrough or standard dose, so my assumption is that it will require less for microdosing. I have only just started so I will try to post details as I go.
Hope you make the changes I have suggested.
Regards,
hH
I don’t see any concrete information that sugar kill psilocybin. Please provide your fact findings
I prefer microdosing often. It keeps me feeling better all day
Does age or body weight of the person have an effect on dosage needed?
Body weight would be a factor. Low body weight=tiny dose, higher body weight=larger dose.
As for age, not sure about the effects of that on the dose.
Hello,
I would like to know if i can use my food dehydrator which has a minimum of 35°celsius, or if that’s already too much for drying fresh shrums?
Thank you for your advice!
i dry at 80c, no food dehydrator will get hot enough to destroy the actives.
I don’t understand: you said that any amount of heat will mess up shrooms potency, and then you recommend using a food dehydrator for drying. Food dehydrator do use heat, even if it’s low heat.
The information I got from forum is that you shouldn’t heat shrooms over 120 F. I have a toaster oven that can be set under 100 F and I decided to use it for drying my shrooms. Bad idea? I wonder…
Also, when you grind the shrooms, using a coffee grinder or else, isn’t it dangerous to mess up the potency whit the heat generated by the grinding process? Friction is generating heat as well.
I like someone’s opinion on this.
Thank you.
I dry at 160 degrees, no noticeable negative effect on the final product.
I wouldn’t worry about heat generated in a grinder. They only need grind for a few seconds, and the dry mushrooms are so fragile and light that i cannot imagine much resistance/friction is occurring in that short amount of time.
Thank you for sharing and spreading awareness! I hope that this magical plant would not be abused and misused. Everything, if used properly and moderately proves to be beneficial. I hope this could be the future treatment of a lot of diseases. It has endless capabilities!
Please quit hoping. People are going to abuse every thing and anything (food, caffeine, sugar, water(yes people have died from drinking to much water: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwid7e3_qZPmAhXFLlAKHT4jARkQFjABegQIDRAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWater_intoxication&usg=AOvVaw0KK7aLI_w489YcfNiihLDJ), alcohol, etc. etc. etc.) .
Pray that people act responsibly. Manifest this in your realities!
Mushrooms are not plants. I dry at 180f and haven’t noticed a loss in potency.
I see allot of questions about what to mix with. I am leaning towards a product made by Host Defense called “My Community”. It contains 17 different mushrooms; Royal Sun Blazei, Cordyceps, Enokitake, Amadou, Agarikon, Artist Conk, Reishi, Oregon Polypore, Maitake, Lion’s Mane, Chaga, Shiitake, Mesima, Birch Polypore, Pearl Oyster, Split Gill Polypore and Turkey Tail, you can buy it in a powder form(also in capsules, tincture, etc) Google it, you’ll easily find what I am referring to. Mushrooms work better together, the more diverse the makeup the more effective outcome, so this approach of combining the PSILOCYBIN of your mushrooms with the powder from Host Defense would be a wonderful combination. I have not done this as I am still very new to mushrooms, but it seems a good direction. Would love to hear your thoughts. I am in the purchasing/growing stage of my micro dosing of psilocybin mushrooms, but I already do use the Host defense products and am very please with the results of just these alone.
The idea that mild heat (such as an oven on the lowest setting with the door open) will cause loss of potency is a common misconception. Indeed – how this would differ from a dehydrator is confused – as they are basically just low temperature ovens. Also things like mushroom tea wouldn’t work as the heat from the water would also cause loss of potency – in short heat causing loss of potency is an uniformed myth spread by woo merchants.
Psilocin is the active compound that causes effects – but it is incredibly unstable and is going to deteriorate to other compounds no matter what you do. Psilocybin on the other hand is much more stable – it is a prodrug to Psilocin – the body converts Psilocybin to Psilocin via dephosphorylation.
If you are drying mushrooms out the Psilocin content is going to be 0 – no matter what – while the Psilocybin content is going to remain just about stable – no matter what.
Really the only things that will 100% cause loss of potency are things which breakdown Psilocybin – which are oxygen and light.
Griding into a fine powder is, therefore, just about the worst thing you can do as it massively increases the surface area to oxygen.
If you are going to do this just grind the dose you are going to take – never grid mushroom for storage as doing so will massivly decrease their potency over time.
If you want to grind only a few doses at a time to avoid oxidation and loss of potency, wouldn’t you also get less consistent doses because of different potencies between mushrooms and within a single mushroom?
Is it possible that oxidation is less of an issue once the powder is contained in a capsule, and stored properly?
This blog about Preparing Psilocybin Mushrooms For Microdosing has helped
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I reached the ideal weight. Kiss you All!
Does Micro dosing help with pain management? I suffer from cluster headaches and looking for something that would help keep them under control. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
I’m looking for ways to store mine for long periods as I prefer to buy in quantity. I’ve heard of some people mixing with honey. Or someone mentioned chocolate or butterscotch chips? Are these good ways to store?
Thank you
Thanks for all the info , i’m looking into buying a capsule filler, but i’m wondering what size of capsule should i go with, i was thinking on mixing .2gr of powder cubensis and the rest with cacao powder . Si i was wondering if a “0” capsule is enough or should i go with the “00”? Thanks again !
Hi Pablohongo,
A size 0 holds 500mg, so that should be just fine.
Can I make tincture, with muoshrooms?
I was saving some shrooms in my freezer. And I looked at the the other day. And there has been a big build up of powder. I was wanting to do a eight. And trip with a buddy. Can the powder be weighted out to the weight of a eight. And be the same thing? I dont want to end up doing to much and trip super hard. I’ve only done max of a eight and dont want to end up doing alot more then that.
1/8th of powder weighs the same as 1/8th of the shroom so yes, you can weigh it and you shouldn’t have any issues. Good Luck!
I am an older person living in the southern u.s. I have been suffering with MDD, TRD, and also suffered with PPP after the birth of my child. This has been going on for 53 years. I just want to find a way to obtain some reliable, safe p.cubensis shrooms, without the tedium of growing.
I feel we are on the brink of finally being able to buy this legally, in most states, with the recommendation of a doctor, but, in the meantime, can anyone help me? There has got to be a way to do this, I would think!
Hi. I have purchased my .2 g for microdosing already in the capsule. I would like to grind and fill my own capsules. Can you tell me what size pill filler/empty capsules to buy to end with .2 mg micro dosed capsules.
Hi Lori, capsule size zero holds roughly 500mg (.5g) so you’d have plenty of room for your microdose and would have extra room for additional supplements if you want to add them. Happy microdosing!
Best,
Ginger
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I am
Purchasing 100g dried truffles and was thinking to grind them all into a powder at once and then use to microdose. Will they lose potency if I grind them all at once and keep as a powdered form over about 12 months?
Hi, would you please let me know for how long the mushrooms should stay in the food dehydrator, and at which temperature potency ? Thank you
I’m seeing different things as far as the caps and stems. I’ve seen that they can contain different levels, but no one is saying by how much. I’ve also seen things aboitbusing only stems or caps but not both together. Can I get some clarification on this ? Also if there are always different levels how do you know how much you are actually getting each time. It seems that if you were to grind both caps and stems together you’d still be able to find your dosage ? I’m so confused, and so interested for C-PTSD and depression. I’ve been in a state of not caring about anything anymore for a while and I’m desperate to fix myself. Years of therapy have done nothing. And its only getting worse. There is so much different information out there its hard to understand how to do this. Can anyone help please ?!
Hi. I bought a kit from you but in the instruction how to consume, you state that I can check dna and other stuff. But when I try to go to the site, it tells me I need to connect to domain. With my Windows Home edition, it won’t allow me to do this. Can you help with with an alternative? Why the need to do this in the first place!
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Before you begin, it’s essential to obtain high-quality psilocybin mushrooms. Ensure that you are sourcing them from a reputable and trustworthy supplier or, if legally permissible, cultivating them yourself. Popular psilocybin-containing species include Psilocybe cubensis and Psilocybe semilanceata.