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Transcript: How to Improve Your Microdosing Experience

The Third Wave · April 14th, 2020

Please enjoy this transcript of the “How to Improve Your Microdosing Experience” webinar.

As one of the leading entrepreneurs in the cultural psychedelic space, Paul Austin has founded two investment-backed companies: The Third Wave and Synthesis.

We cover a lot of ground in this complimentary workshop, including:

0:00:52 Paul Austin: Hey, so I see some people are already entered in. Just wanna welcome you to this webinar about the most important part of microdosing, which is dosing, obviously. How do we take it? What’s the calibration? When is too much? When is too little? All of these are really, really important things. So just, it’s a first hello, and welcome! I’d love to get a sense for everyone just to write in the chatbox to tell me your name, to tell me where you’re from, maybe a little bit about why you’re interested in microdosing. So just go ahead and type here, and let us know your name, where you’re from and just your interest and reason in terms of why you’re interested in microdosing. I assume we’ll start the webinar about five minutes after 12, so that’s about five minutes from now. I wanna give everyone a chance to come in, to check things out, to make sure that everyone is here who really needs to see this workshop.

0:01:51 PA: And this workshop today, this webinar is going to be focused primarily on LSD microdosing, in terms of how you properly measure it. We will also be talking about psilocybin mushrooms a little bit, but the focus will largely be on LSD. So yeah, everyone, welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome! As you’re coming in, please just go ahead, write your name and where you’re from, and maybe as well, why you’re interested in microdosing. I think this is gonna be a really fun webinar today. I think you guys are gonna learn a lot of practical information from this webinar. And so, I’m really excited to get started. Like I said before, we’ll start in about five minutes. It’s gonna be about five minutes before we start. I wanna make sure that everyone has a chance to get in the webinar. We’re already at 250 people in here, which is great! 250 people, that’s fantastic! I’m gonna wait ’til maybe we have about three to four hundred. So if we could just hold tight, and once we’re all prepared, we will get going.

0:03:00 PA: I’m actually drinking something called lion’s mane. It’s a type of mushroom that actually can be used in combination with microdosing. This is something we actually talk about in our course. How do you combine microdosing with other modalities? And it’s a nice little thing from Four Sigmatic. Four Sigmatic, the mushrooms that you can make, they’re really, really good. So like I said, we’ll start in about five minutes. If you’re just coming in, please introduce yourself, tell us where you’re from and tell us maybe a little bit of why you’re interested in microdosing. We have a lot of people, this is great! I’m so excited for all of you, Dave, Sean from San Francisco, Dre from Los Angeles. Cool! Mike also takes lion’s mane, it’s a great one. David from Seattle, Angela from Springville, Forrest from SoCal, Nuno from Lisbon. Nuno, I love Lisbon, one of my favorite cities in the world. I lived there for four months. It’s great! Paul from San Clemente, Scarlet from Holland, Cat from Rockland, Mark from Massachusetts. Great, guys, this is great! We’re seeing so many people who are coming in, who are interested in microdosing. I’d love for you, if you’re new here, just go ahead, introduce yourself, tell us where you’re from and tell us a little bit about why you’re interested in microdosing. And in about three, four minutes, we’re actually gonna get started with the information.

0:04:20 PA: In the meantime, I’ll tell you a little bit about my story with microdosing, how I got going. Some of you may have heard it before. Jonathan, So do I, the Paul Stamets lion’s mane blend. Really good, Fungi Perfecti, I think, is the brand. Really good stuff as well. So my own story with microdosing is really interesting. Back when I was in college, eight years ago, I took a bunch of LSD, maybe 15 or 20 times, and those experiences were really profound and impactful for me. So as a result of those experiences, I decided to pursue a more unconventional path, which led me to somehow starting a public website about microdosing. And when I microdosed, I noticed that it really helped me with two things. It helped me to reduce social anxiety. So when I was in more like big, bigger party or situations, I’m more introverted. Sometimes, I’m a little more withheld. And microdosing will allow me to be a bit more bubbly without the use of alcohol, which I really, really liked. And then it also helped me with creative projects for work. So if I needed to work as an entrepreneur, I wanted to build new ideas and work on new projects, so then, it was also really helpful for that. This is about three years ago that I started microdosing, and it was profoundly impactful. It was profoundly impactful.

0:05:37 PA: In fact, I’m curious, I’m gonna run… We have these cool little polls that we can do with the webinar. So I’m gonna run our first poll, and I just… I’m curious, how many of you have tried microdosing before? How many of you have you tried microdosing before? Yes, about 70%. No, about… Ooh, okay. So I”m gonna see how this plays out. So have you tried microdosing before? Just go ahead and answer that poll for us. Like I said, we’re gonna get started with the slides in about maybe two or three minutes. I just wanna make sure everyone has a chance to come in before we get going. So about 65% of you have tried microdosing before, and about 35% of you have not tried microdosing before. Now, that’s really, really interesting because one thing that I think about, particularly for the people who have tried microdosing before is, “How effective was your microdosing protocols?” So actually, I’m gonna start a new poll real quick. So about 60% of you said yes, 40% of you said no. I’m curious, hold on, I’m gonna do a new poll for us. How many of you, I gotta write it out quick, have…

0:06:50 PA: Was your microdosing experience powerful? Yes. No. In other words, what I mean by that, and I’ll explain is, “Was it effective?” For the reason you went into microdosing, did something happen as a result of that, or was there really no impact or benefit because of microdosing? So my microdosing experience was very powerful. And that’s of course why I’m such an evangelist around it. So it looks like about 65% of you said yes, 35% of you said no, in terms of your actual microdosing experience. Now, this is… The reason I ask that question is because what we’re gonna talk about today in terms of calibration is really, really important in terms of getting that ideal experience, in terms of getting that ideal protocol.

0:07:42 PA: And if you can really hone in from a calibration perspective on the appropriate microdose for you and what you’re doing, that I think leads to a higher probability and higher chance that you’re going to have an impactful microdosing experience. This calibration aspect is so important because as we’ll get into later, some people just take too little, they don’t notice anything, some people take way too much and it’s a little too overwhelming and it’s not a microdose, it’s a little bit more than microdose. So we’re gonna talk about what is that sweet spot and how does that sweet spot maybe change based on your intention in terms of why you’re getting in to microdosing?

0:08:21 PA: Okay, so I think we have most of the people here today. I am by myself, so I might be a little… It might be a little bit difficult for me to get back to some of the questions, but I’m going to do my best to hop back and forth between. And we have about 330 people here now, so I want to go ahead and get started. So, make sure you have some water, make sure you’re comfortable. And then, I will go ahead and I’ll introduce myself a little bit as we get into the slides that we have. One second.

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0:09:07 PA: Okay, you guys can see these slides, can you see these slides okay? Am I getting a thumbs up? Great, I think I’m getting the thumbs up, and we’re gonna have time for questions, probably 10 or 15 minutes at the end, we’ll go probably between an hour and an hour and 10 minutes. I’m not in a rush, this Saturday afternoon where I am, so I’m happy to stay a little longer. Okay, you guys can see this. Cool. I like this. So I’m gonna be talking through these. You can see me in the lower right-hand corner as well. And again, please save your questions for the Q&A. I might hop in, in the middle, but most of the questions will have to be at the end. So, as I said already, my name is Paul Austin, I’m the founder of The Third Wave, a website that focuses on improving psychedelic literacy and changing the cultural conversation around psychedelics through the topic of microdosing. And, yes, this is being recorded. This is being recorded.

0:10:05 PA: And some of you may know me from the email list. I’ve sent out a number of emails, some of you maybe have seen talks that I’ve given, and so I just wanna welcome all of you for being here today, for coming and attending this workshop about a topic like microdosing, because I think, microdosing is a really important topic. It is a really important topic because I think it offers hope and it offers an avenue for so many things that we’ve struggled with as a culture and society for so long and microdosing can help to facilitate healing, self-understanding, self-reflection for people because of what it does.

0:10:45 PA: And again, calibration is one of the most important parts of that which is what we’re going to talk about today. So the most important part of microdosing is dosing. So what does that mean? Let’s get to it. So, here are the things that we’re going to discuss today. Okay, so first of all, how to measure your dose appropriately with LSD, and this can also apply to something called 1P-LSD. So, it’s gonna be about measuring LSD but this can also apply to 1P-LSD, how to calibrate your dose. So that’s how do you know when you’ve taken too little or when you’ve taken too much and then how to know if you’ve done it right. Meaning, what I mean by that, what we mean by that is you’re going in to your microdosing protocol with a specific intention or objective and you wanna make sure that your experience facilitates that because I think 35% of you said, microdosing really didn’t work for you. It didn’t really work for what you wanted and that’s not okay, because there are very specific things that we can do to optimize that protocol.

0:12:03 PA: We will talk a little bit about mushrooms, but because of a limited timeframe today, we really only have an hour, really gonna focus most of our efforts on LSD. And then at the end, we will have a Q&A for live audience members as well. So, let’s get right into it, again please save your questions for the end. I will do my best to get back to as many questions as possible. But for now, save them for the end.

0:12:33 PA: So, measuring your LSD microdosing, this is something that we call volumetric dosing, okay? Volumetric dosing is the most precise way to measure your LSD microdose. So, I’m gonna give you a story real quick. And I think this is a story that a lot of people share. When I first started microdosing with LSD, I was doing it in 2015. I was a little lazy in my approach and so I just decided to cut tabs in a very inaccurate way. And that process of cutting the tabs was very inaccurate. So some days I would get a very low amount and I wouldn’t really feel it at all, some days I would get a pretty high amount, too high, and I couldn’t really focus. I couldn’t really do the work that I’d planned to do or just generally function like I wanted to function and it’s because I was not utilizing volumetric dosing. So what we do for volumetric dosing is we measure out a precise amount of distilled water. So for example 100 milliliters.

0:13:39 PA: We pour the water into a clean, resealable, opaque container. We drop the tab or the liquid LSD in the water, being careful not to touch the tab with your bare skin. You’ll seal the container and rigorously shake it for about two minutes, and then you’ll cover the container so no light gets in and place it in the refrigerator for one to two hours. You do not need to remove the tab from the liquid, you can just keep it in there. Now there are a couple of variations on this. One, is some people will also put a little bit of alcohol in there, maybe a high potency vodka to help with… A little high potency vodka to help make sure that it stays clean and there’s no germ or bacteria applied to it at all. So, I’m seeing a lot of questions, I wanna address a few things, ’cause a lot of people are also asking about mushrooms. What I will say is the stuff that we talk about in the latter half of this webinar will also apply to mushrooms, and I’ll give those kind of scales for mushrooms as well, but we’ll probably have to do another webinar that goes deep into the specifics of how you grind mushrooms, how you measure them out, how you put them in capsules because, like I said, we’re just limited on time.

0:14:55 PA: Okay, so, let’s say, for example, let’s walk through this as an example, just so that everyone has an understanding. Let’s say you get a tab of LSD, let’s say it’s 1P-LSD. Okay, you get a tab of 1P-LSD from a lab in Canada, which a lot of people are doing. You get it to your house and it has 100 micrograms of LSD on it, 1P-LSD. So, what you would do is if you measure out 100 milliliters of distilled water, you put the one tab in the distilled water, now for every one milliliter of distilled water, you’re going to have one microgram of 1P-LSD. And that way you know that when you take it, that you’re getting the precise amount that you intended. One of the challenges with, for example, if you purchase LSD is, like on the dark web for example, you sometimes don’t know the potency. So, what’s best if you’re acquiring LSD from the dark web or from something that is not a laboratory, that you haven’t tested and measured it yourself, I think it’s a safe assumption to assume that the one tab is 100 micrograms as well. That’s not going to be accurate. Sometimes it might be 95, sometimes it might be 105. Sometimes it might be 110, but if you go at about 100 micrograms as an assumption, then you can measure it out pretty accurately as a result of that.

0:16:25 PA: Now, I wanna show you this. Okay, so I actually have a live kit that I want to show you, I’m going to get it real quick, it’s just here in my office and then I’m going to bring it back. I’m going to open it to you, I’m gonna show you then how you use each one of them if you’re microdosing with LSD. So, one second.

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0:17:11 PA: Great. So, this is a microdosing kit. You see that? It’s a microdosing kit, we have these available on our website. And in this microdosing kit, you’re going to get a few things. One is a syringe. Okay, so, with a syringe, again, there’s no needle on the end, just a very basic syringe. You can measure out the appropriate microdose so that you know exactly how much you’re getting. So, that’s the first important piece. The other important piece is the opaque water bottle container. Let’s see if I can… I can make the screen bigger. Sure, yep. That’s a good point. Is that better? Is that better? I think that’s better. Okay, I will try that again, sorry about that.

0:18:10 PA: Okay, so this is the syringe. As you can see, it has 10 milliliters, 8 milliliters, 6 milliliters. So, what you can do is you can pull the syringe to accurately measure out the amount in the opaque container. So, it’s not completely opaque, I see someone saying, but it is brown, it’s amber, so it’s going to block most of the light from coming in, which is what you want. And so, then what you do is, as you can see, there’s a little bit of paper in there that we’ve already submerged. So what we do is, we just open it and I’m not going to do this right now, but you open it up, you put the syringe in, okay, you put the syringe in the bottle, and then you accurately measure it out to, for example, this would be about 9 milliliters. And then what I would typically do if I was microdosing today, for example, is I would just put it in my mouth like that, and that would be exactly nine micrograms of LSD or 1P-LSD. So, that’s the process that you would take.

0:19:25 PA: Now, one other thing. When you acquire LSD, always make sure to test your drugs. Always make sure to test your drugs. You need to make sure that it’s the real thing. There have been reports lately of fentanyl, and then this isn’t to scare any of you, but it’s also good, honest information. There have been reports lately of fentanyl, which is the opiate synthetic being in LSD, mixed with LSD, which is pretty, excuse my French but, fucked up. LSD is non-toxic and non-addictive, as is psilocybin, so always test your drugs if you’re getting it from anywhere except like a lab in Canada. And even then, it’s probably best to test it. And then, the other thing that you always wanna be aware of, which I’ve emphasized before, is don’t touch LSD with your bare hands. Right, it could be NBOMe as well, I’m really glad you brought that up, yes. Don’t touch LSD with your bare hands, which is where, hold on… Latex gloves really come in handy.

0:20:33 PA: So you wanna have, if you’re for example, cutting up the LSD and then you take the LSD, you don’t wanna touch it with your bare fingers, ’cause the oils on your bare fingers will make it bad. So you wanna take it and you wanna put it in the container, like this, with a glove on your hand. It’s also really, really important to do. So you can test it by… We have these microdosing kits on our website, where there are testing kits in there. If you want just a testing kit and you don’t need the other things as well, then what you could also do, is you can just Google LSD drug testing kit, and then you can find a drug testing kit, to test your LSD that way. We’re gonna keep going though, because I wanna keep this pace moving.

0:21:25 PA: I do wanna ask one more question of all of you, just because I like to keep it a little bit engaging before we transition into the next part. And that question is, for those of you who have microdosed before, I’m just curious, what have you microdosed with? LSD or a similar analogue, like 1P-LSD, psilocybin mushrooms, mescaline, ayahuasca, ibogaine or other? So we’ve got 356 people in here, about 350, and that’s crazy. It’s only LSD and psilocybin mushrooms. I have microdosed once with ibogaine. I know, Tim Ferriss also wrote about it in his book, “Tools of Titans“, and I think ibogaine would be really good for particularly like opiate addiction for detox, because it connects into the opioid receptors. I know, for example, clinics in Mexico, who do the full-blown ibogaine treatment, and then will send people home with a little microdose to help facilitate that process.

0:22:25 PA: So, it looks like many of you have microdosed with psilocybin mushrooms, about 40% of you have microdosed with LSD, and this is good. This is just general information that I’m trying to understand, in terms of our audience. Let’s now transition back into the power point. And here’s just a little bit more information. So you saw all of these things already a couple things to keep in mind, once the LSD is in the solution, it will evenly distribute itself throughout after you shake it up. So all you need to do is, that means if you drop a 100 microgram tab, like I was talking about before, in 100 milliliters of solution, every millimeter of solution will have one microgram of LSD. Therefore when you’re ready to dose, use a plunger syringe as I showed you, or dropper to measure the amount that you want, and then squirt it into your mouth. It’s pretty straight forward that way.

0:23:25 PA: Okay, so calibrating your dose, and now I’m going to talk a little bit about mushrooms as well in terms of how to properly calibrate the dose level of mushrooms. So I think one thing to keep in mind with mushrooms, compared to LSD, is mushrooms are a little bit more inaccurate. And that’s why we didn’t do a webinar, initially on psilocybin mushrooms, because with LSD and 1P-LSD you know exactly… Basically, you know exactly how much you’re getting. It’s much easier to be precise. One of the challenges for microdosing which some of you may know already because you microdose with psilocybin is the density of the psilocybin in, for example, one batch of Psilocybe cubensis, and I may have pronounced that wrong, so please excuse that, maybe different than the density of the psilocybin from another batch of cubensis. So for example, if you’re microdosing with 0.2 grams of mushrooms consistently, you might notice some slight fluctuations in how you’re feeling, directly because psilocybin mushrooms are a little less accurate in terms of their measurability process.

0:24:40 PA: With that being said though, you should follow the same sort of protocol that we’re going to talk about with LSD here. And I’d like to say something, and I’m gonna set this as the sticky message, and that is… Hold on. Start low, go slow. Alright, Nicholas corrected me, potency. Sorry, potency not density. So the potency of the psilocybin in there. So start low, go slow, start low… It’s an easy little mantra and motto because what that does is particularly for those who haven’t microdosed before, even those who have, the best way to calibrate your dose level is to start with a low amount, and then incrementally work your way up. Because what we’re doing is refining the proper dose for your own physiology, temperament and goals in the process. Every single person is different.

0:25:38 PA: When I microdose, I usually microdose with between 15 and 20 micrograms of LSD. I have a high tolerance for substances and a lot of people… [chuckle] That’s a lame word. I know, I know it’s lame. I know, that’s why I use it, ’cause then people remember it, totally. I have a very high tolerance for substances and I’m a larger male. So someone who is a woman, who might be 105 pounds, who is very sensitive to something like LSD is probably going to need much less. She might need as little as five micrograms. So as a general rule, so you don’t overdo it, you wanna always start with a low dose. So the best way is to start with a small dose of about five micrograms of LSD and for mushrooms, I would say about 0.1 grams of psilocybin mushrooms. So, start at 0.1 grams of psilocybin mushrooms and then once you’ve established how you respond to the initial starting dose, by testing it for one week, then make incremental adjustments to more precisely hone in on the optimal level for you, if necessary.

0:26:47 PA: Yes, weight and body mass does affect a dose. I’m just thinking of… One of my sisters is quite small. She’s five foot four. She’s 105 pounds. So a lot of you are like, “A hundred and five pounds, wow.” So that’s just what came to mind right away. Start low and go slow and make incremental adjustments. So we have, at the bottom here, what you can see is the typical dose day. So day one, a dose day, day two, no dose day, you feel some of the after-effects, some of the afterglow. Day three you’re back to baseline and day four is another dose day. Now, this is Jim Fadiman’s protocol, that he created. And a little bit of background… None of you are assholes. I’m just… None of you are assholes. You’re all great. I love you all very much.

0:27:39 PA: I’m extremely happy that you’re here on a Saturday to learn about microdosing. So thank you, thank you, thank you. Back to Jim Fadiman. So some of you may know who Jim Fadiman is but I really wanna make sure that all of you have at least a basic understanding. Jim is the man who wrote, The Psychedelic Explorer Guide… I do love you Alex. Absolutely, I love you. Jim… Okay, I gotta stop responding to all these comments. Jim wrote The Psychedelic Explorer’s Guide in 2012. He wrote it in 2012 and he had a chapter in there, chapter 16, on microdosing. And what happened is about three years later in 2015 he was on the Tim Ferriss Podcast and that’s what kicked off this whole microdosing craze. Then Ayelet Waldman who is an author wrote a book about microdosing called A Really Good Day: How Microdosing Made a Mega Difference in My Mood, My Marriage and My Life. And that is how a lot of this kicked off.

0:28:40 PA: Now, the dose schedule that Jim recommends is this one. Two times a week with two days off in between. Five micrograms of LSD to start with, about 0.1 grams of psilocybin mushrooms to start with. Now, you should also know there are also other dose protocols that you can try. For example, what I do now when I microdose is when I first started microdosing I did it twice a week for seven months. But then I got to a point where I was like, “Okay, I did twice a week for seven months, now I just wanna do it on an occasional basis.” I just wanna do it on an occasional basis, for specific purposes. So now before I give public talks, like if I’m at a conference and I’m speaking about microdosing I of course take a microdose because it’s skin in the game. It’s showing that, “Okay, I believe in this. I think it’s effective. I think it’s effective for this purpose and this reason and so I’m going to take a small amount of this before I get up on stage and talk to you about it.”

0:29:38 PA: So I tend now to just pick specific protocols and intentions. But from a beginner perspective which many of you are, I think about 40% of you have not tried microdosing before. And even those of you who have I think when you get the most out of microdosing is when you’re using it in a protocol. Sure, Jonathan, please recommend a Canadian pharmacy. That’s fine. Okay. So let’s go on to the next slide. So this is just a little bit more about calibrating your dose. So you can see this written down. And just so you know we’ll send you these slides after as well. We’ll send you these slides after so that you will have them and that way you can make sure you do that.

0:30:25 PA: Yeah, so, Paul Stamets is another one. And that’s the other one that I wanted to mention. Paul Stamets is a famous mycologist. He’s probably the best-known mushroom expert. In fact, I’m reading… One other thing, I’m reading Michael Pollan’s book. You all need to be on the lookout for Michael Pollan’s new book. I’m just gonna write that here, Changing Our Minds by Michael Pollan, hold on, broadcast that. Oh yeah. Check out the book. I got an advanced copy. It’s coming out in about six weeks or five weeks. And in it Michael Pollan talks about his relationship with Paul Stamets and how Paul’s just a really interesting guy. And he was recently on the Joe Rogan Podcast. Maybe you all have heard of this before and mentioned the protocol of five times a week, two days off. But instead of doing it at… Just maybe barely perceptible amounts, do it at a very, very low amount.

0:31:25 PA: So do it at a very sub-perceptible. Almost like a fish oil supplement amount. And that’s what Paul Stamets has also been talking about. Okay. So back to the calibrating your dose. I’m kinda hitting all cylinders right here. A good rule of thumb for calibrating your dose is to increase or decrease your dose by one microgram of LSD with each subsequent dose until you’ve identified where you want to be. For example, if you started microdosing with five micrograms of LSD, you would go up to six, you go up to seven, you go up to eight. Precision is very important in this because a small adjustment could be the determining factor as to whether the protocol is best for you or not. So I wouldn’t say… It might be How to Change Your Mind. Double check that. Actually you know what, the book is right here.

0:32:22 PA: What does that say? You’re right. How to Change Your Mind. So that’s Michael Pollen’s new book. I’m reading through it right now. Great book. So I’ll change that. I think Changing Our Minds was a book that was published by Don Lattin who’s another psychedelic author. I’m gonna put that there.

0:32:49 PA: Okay so anyway calibrating your dose by adjusting it in small increments, you’ll able to safely arrive at the precise dose that works for you. So if you’re starting a microdosing protocol, give yourself a couple of weeks at least to calibrate your dose level effectively. I could do it quite quickly, because I’d done LSD like 20, 25 times previous to starting microdosing. I think some of you who are maybe starting to microdose have never really done psychedelics before. So you need to first calibrate it appropriately and do it in small increments. Also, the first time you take a microdose, treat it like you would a higher dose experience. So don’t put yourself in any sort of vulnerable positions. It should be on a weekend or if you are self-employed on a day off, it should be at home or in nature, somewhere where you feel very comfortable, and you should not be driving a car, you should not be putting yourself in any sort of stressful or vulnerable position, if you are microdosing. So that’s one more thing about calibrating your dose.

0:33:52 PA: Okay. So let’s go through this idea of sub-perceptible. We’re now transitioning from here are the exact points. Okay? So we talked about measuring out your dose amount, we talked about the syringe that you use? We talked about, right? Start low, go slow. So when you’re starting a microdose, start at a very low amount and incrementally increase, but then we need to know because obviously we have this definition of microdosing, which is “sub-perceptible”. So what does that mean? And do you really want that? Well, technically, as long as your dose does not result in any of the acute sensory effects typically associated with psychedelics, visual distortions, synesthesia, seeing geometric patterns, then it is considered sub-perceptible. But that doesn’t mean you won’t “feel your dose”. If you drink a cup of coffee, you definitely feel the cup of coffee. It’s definitely present. You have a little bit more energy, you’re a little bit more focused, but unless you’re overdosing on a dark roast from Starbucks which maybe we do. Yes, I’m recording this webinar. Then you’re not, it’s not super, super present.

0:35:10 PA: So depending on your goals for your microdosing protocol, you may want to be more aware of the dose or you might want to have as little awareness as possible. So I’m gonna talk about sub-perceptible a little bit more, just me and you, we’re just gonna talk about what that means. ‘Cause this is something that I struggled for, for a while. When I was starting to microdose this was in Budapest, a little less than three years ago. I was definitely taking… Yes, best cup of coffee ever, for sure. I was definitely taking a little bit less than, no, a little bit more than a microdose. In other words, when I was taking the acid, I was getting a little bit high. I admit, I was getting a little bit high. It was nice, I had these feelings of euphoria, it was much easier for me to work on creative projects, it was much easier for me to really focus my energy into a specific project. I was more open and vulnerable emotionally, but it was slightly perceptible. There were no visual distortions, I had slightly enhanced sense of touch, I had slightly enhanced sense of smell, sense of taste. So the sensory in facts were increased, but that worked for me. It really worked for me at that time.

0:36:29 PA: Where maybe it was a little bit more. So don’t be tied to a dogmatic description of microdosing. Microdosing as Jim Fadiman once… He emailed me this a couple weeks ago. The optimal microdose is a dose that helps you have a really good day and that you didn’t even notice that you took it. Okay? So it’s a dose that helps you have a really good day, but you really didn’t even notice really that you took it. That’s the optimal microdose. Now, if you feel some slight effects, that’s okay, but just no visual effects. You do not want any visual effects. Now, if you wanna get into why definitions around this are important, it’s because microdosing could be different than, for example, museum dosing. And this is really important when we talk about calibrating our dose levels for specific things. So for example, if you’re taking it as a supplement, a really low amount. Let’s say you’re taking 0.1 grams of psilocybin mushrooms or you’re taking five micrograms of LSD and it has no effects whatsoever. It’s very sub-perceptible. That might be perceived more as a supplement.

0:37:44 PA: So, for example, when you take fish oil, you don’t really notice anything the day of, but as you consistently take fish oil over a period of time, you might notice your skin becomes a little bit smoother, you have a little bit more mental clarity, you have a little bit more energy. That builds up over time. Taking microdoses at very, very sub-perceptible amounts likely does something similar in terms of what’s going on in the brain. A microdose then this technical word is a dose that it’s like a drug. You feel a little bit of it. You do notice a significant improvement or significant change the day of likely but also the days going forward. But again it’s not visually overwhelming, you can still go about your day-to-day activities as you normally would.

0:38:38 PA: And then we go into mini-dosing. Where mini-dosing is quite perceptible. And mini-dosing and the museum dosing are about the same. So a museum dose, for example, would be about 50 micrograms, maybe 40 micrograms depending on who you are. And that’s a dose that makes experiences like museums or concerts very beautiful, just really brings out that emotion. I did microdose today, I took a little bit of mushrooms today, just these little supplements that I have. So that’s why calibrating your dose level is so important is because we’re trying to go towards specific ends or purposes. We’re trying to orient these towards specific things.

0:39:27 PA: So I wanna continue this example. When I am microdosing, for example, with LSD, I will usually go slightly perceptible, so maybe between a microdose and a mini dose. I will go slightly perceptible because I wanna orient myself towards creative and the envisioning process. So if you’re working on something and you wanna brainstorm new ideas, then taking a little bit more of a microdose is going to help with that process. If you’re just looking for something, for example, to wean off of anti-depressants, then I think what a lot of people are doing is they’re taking lower amounts, sub-perceptible amounts. People are also microdosing with cannabis to help with a lot of these things because cannabis is legal in many, many states. So we won’t really talk much about cannabis. In our online course, which we will talk about at the end of this webinar. In our online course, we have a thorough section on microdosing cannabis as well as almost all the other substances and psychedelics. But that’s also another interesting option is microdosing with cannabis because it’s quite legal in many areas, in many states. So that’s a little bit about calibration. Let’s dig deeper now. I’m gonna bring up the… Bring the PowerPoint back up for all of you. But before we go to the PowerPoint, I just wanna ask one more poll. Jeffrey, I’ve combined LSD microdosing with rhodiola and CBD. I just took my CBD this morning as well, but I’m new to CBD. I haven’t had it that long.

0:41:12 PA: So one more poll for all of you is going to be… One sec. Which mistake have you made in the past? Okay. So as we’ve already talked about… Actually, I’m gonna save that one for the end. I’m gonna save that one for the end because we haven’t talked about all those things yet. Okay. I’m trying to find my PowerPoint slide. Give me a second. There she is. Okay. So how do you know if you’ve done it right? How do you know if you have the right amount? I think this is a really important question because as we’ve already talked about, you start low and go slow, you calibrate your dose level effectively, you incrementally increase. So how do you know when you have the right amount? Simply put, the most clear sign that you’ve underdosed… We’ll start with underdosing before we work up, that you’ve underdosed is if you do not feel any change whatsoever after the first, I would say, week, even two weeks of your protocol. So the way that you know you took too little is so for example, let’s say you are really looking to help to start microdosing to help with your energy levels, or maybe you’re looking to microdose to help with creativity or focus, or maybe you’re just looking for microdose to help deepen a spiritual practice, or for many of you, I think, to help with depression, or addiction, or some of these things.

0:42:44 PA: So if you microdosed maybe for a week or two and you’re not noticing any changes whatsoever, nothing has really changed, it could be that you’ve underdosed. Now, that’s not 100% of the time. There are exceptions to that. So, for example, some people who have been on anti-depressants for a long time, they’ll notice that when they start microdosing, they actually need to take much, much higher amounts to have the same effect. That’s not everyone, but that can sometimes happen. The other thing is with people who underdose, some people microdosing just doesn’t work for ’em. Microdosing is not a panacea necessarily. It’s not gonna work for everyone, every time. And so that’s also something to be aware of is if you’ve consistently microdosed, it might be that you’ve underdosed, it might not. So how do we know that? Obviously, the way that we know that is by doing it slightly higher. So the way that we know that is by increasing the amount that we have by a little bit. So if you’ve, for example, microdosed for a week and you’re not really noticing any impact or effect, then you could go higher. So, for example, let’s say you were doing it with five micrograms of LSD. You might go up, like we said before, to six for a week. And then you might go up to seven for a week, and then eight. If you’re a little more impatient like I am, you might go from five to 10 to 15.

0:44:12 PA: In fact, one thing that a lot of people will use and will do if they’ve been microdosing for a while and they’re still… Like they can’t tell, is this having an effect? Is it doing anything to me? They’ll take a higher dose. So they’ll go and take 50 micrograms of LSD instead of just five or 10. They’ll make sure they create a safe space and environment for themself so they can tell, “Is this actually effective for me?” ‘Cause some people will take a lot of psychedelics, nothing will happen to them. So this is how we understand and determine this relationship in terms of what is an appropriate amount for us to be in. Because some of the benefits of microdosing can be quite subtle. So you need to give yourself a period of time to make sure that you’ve done it right. Now, what could go wrong? What could go wrong? So these are some common measure and calibrating pitfalls. One is not using the volumetric dosing and just cutting up your tabs. That can lead to significant inaccuracies. So it’s important that if you wanna be as precise as possible, that you cut up your tabs. Two is microdosing every day. Psychedelics have short-term tolerance, and this is when the Fadiman protocol comes into attention with something like Paul Stamets recommended.

0:45:24 PA: Paul Stamets recommended five times on, two times off. But he was coming at it more from a supplemental perspective, in terms of something that you might do on an ongoing basis. When Jim Fadiman spoke about it, it was just twice a week because the idea is you can have pretty significant benefits from that first time, you can see the couple days after and then you can do it once more and see what happens from there as well. So microdosing every day is not necessary or really any more effective. In fact, I think it can potentially have more negative consequences than just microdosing once or twice a week for two reasons. One, we don’t know the long-term implications and effects of low-dose psychedelic use. We have plenty of data and research that shows that high-dose occasional psychedelic use is safe, as long as certain settings and the environment are paid attention to, but we don’t know about incremental small doses over a long period of time. So it’s important that we exercise caution, we don’t microdose every day, especially at higher amounts like 15 to 20 micrograms of LSD, instead save that for just twice a week.

0:46:45 PA: The other one is adjusting dosage in too large of increments and this is where some people also go wrong is maybe they’ll start at five micrograms, they’ll notice nothing happens and they’ll go right up to 20 or 25 or 30 micrograms. At the very most, you should be increasing only by five micrograms, the very most. And if you’re patient and if you have time, I would say just one or two, each time. And I would say for psilocybin mushrooms that might equate to the most that you would wanna increase is 0.1 grams. So if you’ve been trying 0.2 grams consistently, and you wanna maybe see, “Okay, is this working, is this not?” You could increase to 0.3 grams. And then finally, not using complementary practices to enhance your experience. This is so important, this is the most important part of microdosing. The most important part of microdosing, which is why I’m gonna turn my screen share off and get real… Get real, real for a second.

0:47:43 PA: The most important part of microdosing is not actually just taking the drugs, because we do not wanna become psychologically dependent on the drugs. It’s okay to have a relationship and build that relationship with these substances, but I think what we don’t wanna happen is, we don’t wanna feel like, okay, we can only be a certain way, if we are microdosing with these substances, which is why complementary practices are so, so, so important for microdosing. Now, in our microdosing course, we go into depth on all of these complementary practices. So like, how do you combine meditation, how do you combine float tanks, how do you combine whatever else that might be with a microdosing protocol to maximize the impact and the efficacy of what you’re doing? Because when you’re microdosing, it’s activating something called the 5-HT2A receptor which is one of 14 receptors.

0:48:46 PA: And so what you wanna do or what’s going on is you’re really enabling neuroplasticity when you are microdosing with a psychedelic, just like you are with meditation, just like you are with the float tank. So what we’re doing is, we’re rewiring our neural circuitry and our brains are malleable, they’re plastic. So to make sure that that remains where it is, it’s really important that you tie the microdosing to other practices that also help to facilitate a foundation, so that you don’t feel reliant on an external substance.

0:49:22 PA: Now, with that being said, I will say that I microdose pretty consistently, and I also meditate and I do things like float tanks and exercise and whatever else it might be. So it’s not to say that you can’t microdose on a consistent basis. From my understanding of what we know, there are a lot of benefits to it, however, I think it is good to combine it with other practices so that you can get the most out of it. And again, this is what we go into depth in, in our microdosing course. So let’s… I just have one more question for you, we’re gonna do a brief review of what we just spoke about, and then we’re gonna wrap up and conclude the webinar briefly. So, Dave, we’re not really getting into mushrooms. I briefly touched on it a few times. Today is only focusing on LSD ’cause we only have an hour or so, and I wanna make sure that we respect people’s time. We’ll do another webinar likely on mushrooms, maybe at some point in the future, we don’t have any plan, but that might happen. We do have a lot of information about mushrooms in our microdosing course which we have available, but like I said, we are limited on time today, so we couldn’t get to that.

0:50:38 PA: So let’s ask one more poll, one more question. And again, this will really only be for people who have already microdosed, which mistake have you made in the past when it comes to microdosing? I’ve made the cutting up the tabs mistakes. I’ve made the taking too much on accident mistake. I usually use complementary practices, but not all the time. Interesting. So I wanna keep seeing how these results come in. We’ll give it a couple of more minutes and then we’re gonna go back, we’re gonna review and then we’re gonna say, “Okay, if you wanna learn more, here are next steps in terms of, okay, we have a basic knowledge somewhat of calibrating and microdosing, what can we do going forward?” 17% cutting up tabs, 10% microdosing every day, 30% taking too much on accident, and 45% not using complementary practices.

0:51:29 PA: And I think that’s the biggest thing, we gotta use complementary practices to really integrate those experiences, and again that’s what our course really focuses a lot on. So let’s review. Just briefly, we’re gonna review. We talked about how to measure your dose. We talked about how to calibrate your dose. We talked about how to know if you’ve done it right. We’ve also talked about measuring your LSD microdose with volumetric dosing, again with a little bottle and a syringe. We have these kits available on our website. If you want to get one, we’ll help. We talked about how a 100 microgram LSD tab, dropped in a 100 milliliter of water means one microgram for every one milliliter. We talked about calibrating your dose, so the best way is to start low and go slow, start with a small dose of LSD, five micrograms, for psilocybin mushrooms it might be 0.1 grams.

0:52:24 PA: Increasing it slowly from five to six, six to seven, if you’re a little bit more impatient maybe five to 10, but I wouldn’t jump any more than from five to 10 because that can be quite a jump and we’re very sensitive to these substances and to these things. And then, what does sub-perceptible really mean? We talked about the difference between maybe a supplement level, a sub-perceptible level, and a museum dose level, and how you can utilize each of those four specific purposes. So if I’m really focused flow state mood, I’ll take a little bit less, if I’m in a more creative brainstorming mood, I’ll take a little bit more.

0:53:02 PA: How to know if you’ve done it right? Okay, here are some signs that you may want to decrease your dose: You have problems focusing, you feel giggly or heightened sense of anxiety, you generally feel a little off or you have a slight mood or visual disturbances or strong emotional insights rising to your awareness that you don’t feel capable of addressing in the context you’re in. So that’s another thing in terms of how do you know if you’ve done it right. I know… I seem to have missed a slide, but that are some of the things you may run into if you take too much, problems focusing, giggly, a little anxiety, feeling a little off, and some maybe slight mood or visual disturbances.

0:53:44 PA: Okay. So now, we’ve kinda reached the end. So basically, we’ve talked about the basics of microdosing in terms of measuring LSD and calibrating. However, as I’ve emphasized again and again in this conversation, the potential of microdosing is so much greater. I think there are a lot of people who just assume microdosing is taking a low amount of the psychedelic twice per week and seeing what happens, but there’s so much more that you can do around your microdosing protocol to optimize it for the best experience. Journaling, intention-setting, knowledgeable experts and interviews, complementary practices, explicit directions and help, a community of people and microdosers who are also microdosing. And this is what we’re offering with our microdosing course membership.

0:54:34 PA: So basically, there’s a written course curriculum covering everything from the science of microdosing, to how to measure and store your dose, to best practices for optimizing your experience. We have demonstration videos, somewhat like I did today, but even more with psilocybin mushrooms, a demonstration video as well, demonstration videos and other things that you can do. There are exclusive expert interviews with specialists in related fields, clinical psychiatry, biohacking, meditation, metaphysics. We have an integrative psychiatrists we’ve interviewed, we have a psychotherapist we’ve interviewed, we have an MDMA researcher, we have a number of other extra interviews lined up of people who are doing research with microdosing who are answering our communities questions about what’s going on when we microdose, how can we use microdosing for this purpose or this purpose or this purpose?

0:55:28 PA: Then there’s six months free access to our members-only online community. I think this is the best part because a lot of us who are taking psychedelics, who are microdosing, who are new to this, we have no one else to talk to. We have no one also talk to when it comes to this except for situations like this. So we’ve created a community where you can connect with a bunch of other microdosers, hundreds of other microdosers around the world and probably in your city if you live in a big city. So you can start to build that community and ask questions within that community. And then we also include a microdosing workbook which allows you to prepare before your microdosing experience by cultivating deep intention. Allows you to track actually what’s going on when you microdose so you can notice psychometric changes when you’re doing it. And then we also have a tracking template, and this helps to guide, monitor, and optimize your day-to-day experience.

0:56:25 PA: The whole thing comes with a 30-day money-back guarantee. We really invested a lot of time and effort into this project. It means a lot to us. We think it’s really valuable for a lot of people, and that way, for that reason, we feel confident giving a 30-day money-back guarantee. So if you were to buy it today, or at some point in the future within 30 days, if it’s just not what you expected or what you wanted, you can go ahead and get your money back.

0:56:50 PA: So we’re going to get to questions in a sec. What I do wanna say is that if you purchase today, you’ll also receive a free electronic copy of a new book that I just published called “Microdosing Psychedelics: A Practical Guide to Upgrade Your Life.” It’s about 140 pages. We spent about a year working on this so you’re also going to receive a free electronic copy of that today if you register for the microdosing course. That’s one little bonus that we’re giving to everyone to both thank you for coming and to acknowledge your contribution.

0:57:27 PA: And then one more thing, for the first 15 registrants who register today for the microdosing course, you’ll receive a free consulting session with Charlie who is this striking gentleman who… And Charlie say hi, I know you’re in the chat somewhere there, so go ahead and say hi. And he’s a seasoned multi-industry entrepreneur and passionate mental health advocate. Charlie has extensively microdosed himself and basically helped to build the microdosing curriculum. And that is $127 value. Normally, to set up these 30-minute calls, it’s $127 bucks, for the first 15 people who register today, it’s completely free. So you get to hop on a phone call with Charlie, he’ll walk you through the process, he’ll answer all your questions that you have and he’ll make sure that you get what you need so that you can optimize your protocol as much as possible.

0:58:22 PA: So one last thing. This is what a few of our course members have said about the microdosing course. It’s great for everyone from absolutely no experience with psychedelics to the most experienced who would like to improve their microdosing techniques or wellness tracking. Its contents have a perfect balance between scientific research, practical recommendations and experiences. I consider it to be very holistic, informational and inspiring. This course is a must-take for experience enhancement and harm reduction purposes. The microdosing course gave me permission to spend time developing myself and helped me open myself up for reflection and growth in a controlled way. It was great to share stories and the experience with all types of wonderful characters from across our beautiful planet and to create the space to re-invent ourselves. This course helped me to optimize and structure my microdosing protocol. It gave me the knowledge and skills to fulfill the potential benefits of microdosing. In addition, it made me aware of how to monitor those benefits.

0:59:29 PA: So here’s what we’re gonna do. I’m gonna put this up. Obviously I’m also hanging around for all the questions that you have. So I’m not going anywhere. And the information is now up. So if you’d like to access and purchase the microdosing course, like we said the first 15 registrants today for the microdosing course, get a completely free 30-minute consulting call with Charlie and all of you for attending the webinar are going to get a free copy of our electronic book. So we wanna thank you for attending the webinar. We wanna thank you for doing that. And if you guys could just click on that, click on the “Get Access Now” and just Charlie, can you let me know if it works? Can you all let me know if that link works for the “Get Access Now.” I just wanna make sure that everything is good.

1:00:25 PA: Looks like it’s working for me. Definitely looks like it’s working for me. So like we said, we’ll go ahead now, we’ll just keep that up. If, like I said, the first 15 registrants today will get a free 30-minute consulting call with Charlie. And one thing to emphasize is we are in the process of declaring non-profit status and working towards that angle. So also by enrolling in this course, you are actively contributing to The Third Wave’s mission and the psychedelic movement. That means funding research into microdosing, changing the cultural conversation around responsible use of psychedelics and helping us avoid advertising to remain 100% community-supported, we do not have any advertisements on our site, I wanna keep it that way. And the team that’s working on this and there are about six or seven of us, are trying to make this work. It is stressful. It’s financially difficult, but we are doing our best and we believe in this course, the material that we provide and think that it would significantly benefit anyone who has questions or is interested about the topic of microdosing. So that’s all I’m gonna say about that. That’s it. What I wanna do is, I wanna to go ahead and I wanna get your questions answered now. So let’s go ahead. I’m gonna move over to the Q&A and see where we’re at.

1:01:49 PA: One sec. Okay. So what time of day can you microdose? That is the first one that I got. I think the best time of day to microdose is in the morning. And that’s especially if you’re microdosing with LSD. Microdosing with LSD lasts about twice as long as psilocybin mushrooms. So if you’re going to microdose with LSD, you wanna do it as early as possible. So usually I microdose first thing in the morning when I wake up, and then I go from there.

1:02:22 PA: So Mike asks, whether it’s psilocybin or LSD, what should someone do if they experience a small amount of anxiety on a dose day? I think the best thing is some sort of box breathing, sitting down, meditating for a little bit, watching you know, feeling your breath come in and your breath come out, sitting with yourself potentially doing some box breathing and trying to relax. I have been struggling with anxiety lately as well, largely because I live in New York, and I’ve been trying to really focus in on things that I can do to improve that. So Heidi says, you didn’t mention how many drops of liquid LSD to put in the hundred milliliters bottle. So what you do is you take 100 milliliters of distilled water and if you have, for example, liquid drops of LSD, and one drop is 100 micrograms, then you’re only gonna put one drop in the in the distilled water, because then you have 100 micrograms to 100 milliliters, which means for every one milliliter you’ll have one microgram.

1:03:30 PA: So someone asked, can you build up tolerance to your dose? Do you need to take more? Or do you need to take regular breaks? So you can build up tolerance to the dose, especially if you do it two days in a row, which is why we recommend the Fadiman protocol only do it twice a week. Okay? Only do it twice a week and after like five or 10 weeks, take a break. I think the same thing applies to microdosing as coffee, and other things that we use to help improve our performance and wellbeing is I think it’s always good to take some breaks to get us back to baseline to understand where we’re at before we continue further.

1:04:15 PA: I’m getting some more questions now. So Bjorn Eric asks, can microdosing help heal chronic fatigue syndrome? I do not have an answer for that. I do not know. I think that’s a really great question. And something that we can explore in our expert interviews in the online course and community. But like I said, that’s not a question that I know off the top of my head.

1:04:43 PA: So Barrett asked three questions. “What am I testing for and where do I get it?” So if you’re testing for LSD, which you probably will be, you can just type in “LSD testing kit”, and you can find it on there. We also have microdosing kits that are available for purchase on our website. Dose regimens. “What are the names of the two-dose regimen, I.e., twice a week?” That’s just what we call the Fadiman Protocol, versus the five-days-on is the Stamets protocol, I would say. And it’s just named after the people who kind of came up with them because there’s really no mature vernacular around microdosing yet. And dose amounts. “What are the measurements levels to be categorized as microdose versus the dose amount for mini-dose?” I would say a microdose would be anywhere from 10-20 micrograms, maybe 5-20 micrograms, and a mini-dose might be closer from 25-40 micrograms. But again, it’s so individual. It depends on the individual, depends on why they’re microdosing, it depends on who they are, their physiology, all of these things.

1:05:57 PA: So, for time of day for microdosing, in the morning is best. How do you test the LSD with an LSD testing kit? Can you microdose MDMA? You can, but we have an article on our website that says how we think it’s best not to microdose with MDMA, because it might show potential for neurotoxicity over an extended period of time. So what we say is probably for now it’s best not to microdose with MDMA until we have more data and information. We know that LSD and psilocybin mushrooms are non-toxic, they’re not addictive, they’re very, very safe. We can’t say the same about MDMA necessarily. John says, “If I feel some anxiety when I microdose, does that mean the dose is too large?” Most likely. If you’re feeling anxiety when you microdose, that might mean the dose is too large, it’s best to go down. If you go down and you’re still feeling that anxiety, it’s probably just best to stop then. Because it can speed things up at times. Exactly, so MDMA can cause heart issues with prolonged use. So do we have any other questions, anything else that’s coming up?

1:07:09 PA: Okay, so we’ve had a few sales now, that’s good. I was so busy answering the questions. So we still have about… I need to double check this, but we still have about 10 of the consulting calls left. We still have about 10 of the consulting calls left. And I know there are some directions as well. So there are still about 10 left, so we’re gonna leave them. Like I said, if you purchase today, you will get access to the free consulting call as well as our 30-day money-back guarantee and six months of free community access. Okay. Okay. So we’re gonna leave about five more minutes for questions and then I will have to get going. So we only have about 10 units left. So I’d say, if you want access to the free consulting call, like we said, there’s a 30-day money-back guarantee, just go ahead and you can get that now. Let me check the questions and then we’ll probably wrap up.

1:08:51 PA: Sounds great, Mark, thank you so much, I support your program. Paul, way to go [unclear speech]. And microdosing before bed is probably best not to do. “What size dose to use for brainstorming, Paul?” Usually 20-25 micrograms. So usually 20-25 micrograms for brainstorming, maybe slightly higher, maybe 30-35. It just depends on the day and the environment. Benjamin asks, how do you slip a high dose into a microdosing protocol? One of the best ways to slip a high dose into a microdosing protocol is, I would say, make sure you do it at least two to three days after a microdose, and that’s really all you should need to do.

1:09:36 PA: There shouldn’t really be any other conflict or overlap there, it should be pretty straightforward and simple to handle. Does it have to be on an empty stomach? Not necessarily, I’ve microdosed with food before. I think that should be perfectly fine to also microdose without it… Without needing to have an empty stomach. Jen, asks, “Is this safe for younger people, as in folks who brains have not fully developed?” I don’t know if I am qualified enough to answer that question. I would stick to the regular… These substances should only be utilized by people who are 18 or older. I think that’s the safest route to go. But, yeah, for brains who have not fully developed, hard for me to say. Hard for me to say.

1:10:29 PA: So Jen asks, “Why are you not talking about concurrent illnesses and microdosing?” That’s a great question, Jen. Mostly because I don’t have a medical background, so while I can talk about the phenomena of that people are microdosing for depression, and people are microdosing to treat these other things, I don’t have the medical background and the expertise to talk about. That’s why we interview all these experts in the microdosing course, because then in the course, we ask them about all these medical questions. So that they can give really, really good responses and answers for people who are looking to microdose for depression, who are looking to microdose for PTSD, for trauma, for these other things and help them understand why microdosing can be effective at treating that and helping that. But again, I don’t have a medical background, so I don’t… When I do these webinars, I won’t really prepare much of that information or give it. We do have some articles on our website that go into that, but the focus mostly is on the basics at the moment.

1:11:30 PA: Yes, that’s correct. So first name says “I’m math challenged right now, if one drop is one microgram, in my solution would I take up to five drops?” Correct, for five micrograms, that is correct, that would be five micrograms. Marissa asked, “Can you microdose if you’re taking an adaptogen such as Schisandra?” I don’t know Schisandra, hold on, let me Google it. I would imagine it’s fine. I microdosed with Rhodiola, which is also an adaptogen, and that seems to be perfectly fine. So I can’t imagine it being an issue at all. “Does vitamin C enhance absorption?” I’m not sure, it might, but I don’t think it would necessarily. I think that’s somewhat of a myth that if you drink acid with water or something that you’ll be… Or I’m sorry of you drink acid and orange juice that you’ll be more likely to have a hard trip. I’m not sure if that’s necessarily true.

1:12:36 PA: Let me see what other questions we have. “What other supplements would you recommend with microdosing?” Lion’s mane is great, fish oil, I take L-theanine is great, I’ve been drinking matcha lately. I use a lot of medicinal mushrooms. Rhodiola is another one that I use. So those are the basic ones. What dose of lion’s mane do I use? I just use one of these packs. These come from Four Sigmatic. So I use one of these packs, which has about three grams in it, and then you just dissolve it in water and you can drink it, and that’s really, really easy.

1:13:24 PA: Okay. That, I think, wraps up all the Q&A. We been going a little bit over an hour now. Arina, I think we can talk about psychological dependency and microdosing. I think that would be a really good topic either for the community or for the next webinar. So I’m gonna go back to full screen now. I wanna thank all of you for attending today. I wanna thank all of you for listening and for learning and taking the time on your Saturday to join us. The course will be available for sale over the next couple days, so if you’re not sure if you want it now but you would like to have it, it will be available. Again, the 30-day money-back guarantee, access to the microdosing community. And I think we have just a couple units left of the free consulting call. We’ve already had a number of people who have taken that and purchased, but we still have a couple left for those of you who also want access to it.

1:14:24 PA: So I wanna thank all of you for attending today. We do have to get going now. We will send a replay. And we are planning to do these again very soon. So there will, hopefully, be another one within the next month or two. Okay. Bye-bye.

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