Utilizing Expanded States for Healing and Transformation

Episode 67

Françoise Bourzat

Françoise Bourzat and Kristina Hunter, co-authors of Consciousness Medicine: Indigenous Wisdom, Entheogens, and Expanded States of Consciousness for Healing and Growth (North Atlantic Books, 2019) sit down with Paul Austin to discuss the importance of psychedelic guides, why courage is central to healing, and the value of earth wisdom that comes from working with plant medicines.

If you’re interested in the safe and ethical application of psychedelics – whether for healing, transformation, or general curiosity – then join us for this riveting conversation.

FRANÇOISE BOURZAT is a consciousness guide and counselor. She has a master’s degree in Somatic Psychology from New College of California and is a Certified Hakomi Practitioner. Residing in the San Francisco Bay Area, she has been weaving the healing potential of expanded states of consciousness and psychology together in her practice for over thirty years. In this time, Françoise has developed a comprehensive approach that bridges Western and indigenous modalities for healing and growth. She trains therapists and facilitators, teaches at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS), and lectures internationally.

KRISTINA HUNTER is a healing guide, writer, and Certified Hakomi Practitioner living in the San Francisco Bay Area. She has spent over ten years traveling the world, studying the transformative potential of expanded states of consciousness. Her work explores the intersection of psychology, plant medicine, and Buddhist meditation. She offers individual counseling and integration support for psychedelic and initiatory experiences. She also offers mentoring and consultation to healing practitioners who wish to integrate expanded states of consciousness into their practice.

The full episode transcript is available here.

Podcast Highlights

  • Why medicalizing psychedelics disconnects us from the “earth wisdom” of psilocybin mushrooms
  • The difference between an “official” guide and “unofficial” sitter – and why both are useful depending on the context
  • Why courage is critical when exploring our shadow and the unloved parts of our entire self

Reader Interactions


  1. AvatarJamee Hannigan says

    I am very interested in receiving this type of psychotherapy for myself.
    I would love to get some information where I could seek help.
    Any information would be greatly appreciated.
    Jamee Hannigan

  2. AvatarLarry R Vaughn says

    Re: Episode 67 I have not had the Journey Experience and this Podcast has really explained what a Healing and Powerful event this is. A real Game Changer for Western Ideology We certainly have truly lost our way from connection to Mother Earth, True Spiritualty, and our place in Nature. We live in the Trinity of Western Thought– Power, Money, Control. Sounds to me that you are on great a Quest for Healing others. Thanks for the two Guests who are well trained and informed.

    • AvatarPaul Austin says

      Thank you Larry, for your kind comment. Françoise is a well of both wisdom and love and her way of knowledge is deeply embodied. We hope to see her back again 🙂

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