Psilocybin, Private Rituals, and Personal Journeys

Episode 105

Bett Williams

Bett Williams is a contemporary psychedelics pioneer, author, and podcast host. In this episode, she talks with Paul Austin about her introduction to mushrooms, her decades-long break from them, her re-entry into the world of psychedelics, and her experience with solo, ritualized journeys.

Bett Williams is a writer and psychedelic explorer, and the author of The Wild Kindness: A Psilocybin Odyssey, a memoir about growing mushrooms in the high desert of New Mexico. Her other works include The Wrestling Party and Girl Walking Backwards, which was named as one of the Ten Best Young Adult Queer Novels by Vogue Magazine. She has written for several publications including DoubleBlind, OUT Magazine, Flaunt, Lucid News, and Lenny Letter.

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Podcast Highlights

  • The language of mushrooms—and what they think about how we talk to them.
  • How mushrooms tap into our subconscious.
  • Discovering the soul-building, artistic, and spiritual benefits of using psilocybin mushrooms while alone.
  • Tracking the changing drug narrative from the 90s to today.
  • The long history of hallucinogens and art.
  • A look at the role of ritual and sacredness when using mushrooms.
  • Bett’s take on the progress of decriminalization and how mushrooms might fare within capitalism.
  • The differences between experiencing mushrooms in a clinical setting versus in your own home.
  • Why so many fathers relate to Bett’s book.

Reader Interactions


  1. AvatarIgor says

    It was 1991 when i first time broke those “holy gates”protection of my mind phantoms,typical young boy neurotransmitters biochemistry , wishes and self-perception changed.May be it seems strange,but i found the shadow of myself,sweet daydreams and painful reality,tears of pure rain and nasty smelling of own soul.More than addicted victim…But not a winner

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