Episode 375
Dave Asprey
In this bonus episode, Paul F. Austin welcomes back Dave Asprey, founder of Bulletproof Coffee and creator of the biohacking movement. This time, they discuss BEYOND Wonderland, Dave’s revamp of the popular psychedelics conference, happening October 12-14 in Austin.
Want to attend Wonderland? Get 10% off your ticket with code THIRDWAVE at wonderlandconference.com. Expires October 10.
They also dive into why Dave thinks medicalizing psychedelics does more harm than good, the well-documented history of CIA involvement in bringing psychedelics into American culture, and what real regulation for microdosing could look like if we did it right. They explore the genetics that can make a single dose dangerous for some people, the overlap between altered states from breathwork, tantra, and specific medicines, and why Dave is as focused on unlocking latent human ability as he is on fixing what’s broken. Dave closes with the rest of the Wonderland lineup, including Rick Doblin, Paul Stamets, John Gray, and Jack Canfield.
Dave Asprey is a longevity expert, founder of Bulletproof Coffee, and creator of the biohacking movement, which he sparked into a $63B global industry. He is a four-time New York Times bestselling author; his newest book is the USA Today bestseller Heavily Meditated: The Fast Path to Remove Your Triggers, Dissolve Stress, and Activate Inner Peace. He hosts The Human Upgrade, a top-100 podcast, and helped build multi-billion-dollar markets around MCT oil and collagen protein.
Dave runs 40 Years of Zen, a neurofeedback program known for ketamine-assisted brainwave training, and Upgrade Labs, the world’s first AI-powered biohacking facility. He recently acquired the Wonderland psychedelics conference and is expanding it into a dedicated event on consciousness, science, and psychedelics, running alongside his long-running Biohacking Conference. He has been featured in The New York Times, ABC/Nightline, Fox News, and Good Morning America, with a following of more than 2.7 million.
Podcast Highlights
- Two and a half years of psychedelic policy progress
- Why Dave bought the Wonderland Conference
- Ketamine-assisted neurofeedback at 40 Years of Zen
- The CIA's documented role in psychedelic history
- The case against medicalizing psychedelics
- What real microdosing regulation could look like
- Half a gram is not a microdose
- Mapping altered states across breathwork, sex, and medicines
- Unlocking latent human ability, not just fixing what's broken
- The Wonderland lineup and how to attend
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